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I have a few Questions about a fly fishing line and leader.

1. I am stuck between these few fly lines, so please tell me which is the best. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=&id=0030121318418a&navCount=2&podId=0030121&parentId=cat602041&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat602041&hasJS=true

http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=scientific-anglers-mastery-series-floating-saltwater-fly-lines&categoryId=50605&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=3943&cat4=1112&shop_method=pp&feat=3943-tn

2. I am also not sure about these few backings. So please tell me which is best. And what pound, and how much length should I get?
http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=mastery-fly-line-backing&categoryId=16758&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=3943&cat4=1112&shop_method=pp&feat=3943-tn
Okay to continue with question 2.

The other links are:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/standard-pod-wrapped.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20431-cat20437-cat602041_TGP&rid=&indexId=cat602041&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=4&parentType=index&parentId=cat602041&id=0011213

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20431-cat20437-cat602041&id=0011220311249a&navCount=4&podId=0011220&parentId=cat602041&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat602041

And my 3rd question.

3. Which leader should I go with. You pick one out from Cabela's or LL Bean. Thanks!

Try to word your answer like; the line, then the backing, and then the leader. Thanks!!

Yes I do already have the tippet.
And if you need to know the species I'm after then here they are:

Snook (small to medium), Redfish, Speckled Trout, flounder, and other medium sized saltwater fish. Thanks for taking your time to read (sort of long) and answer my question. Thanks and have a great Holiday!
Sorry my weight is 9.

Ok, lets get this sorted out, firstly i would go for the scientific anglers as the qualty of their lines is far superior to the other makes, also i would offer you this as an alternative to the SA line, however they really are equally as good
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0043861319711a&navCount=9&podId=0043861&parentId=cat20505&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat20431-cat20505&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20505&hasJS=true
As for backing then 20lb is fine, for makes of this it doesnt really matter although i prefer gel spun backing as this really does offer a bit of stretch if you get a good fish, also its lower in diameter than the others and will take up less spcae on your reel. When addimg backing i would go for 200 yards for hard fighting salttwaer fish such as tarpon.
Try these
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_71953_175003001_175000000_175003000_175-3-1
It can be expensive but is worth it buy 200 yards or more of this. And 20lb will be fine.
Often there is no need for leaders in saltwater, insted i attach my tippet straight to the braided loop attached to my fly line, however if you want a leader try
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20431-cat20524&id=0000985314801a&navCount=12&podId=0000985&parentId=cat20524&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20524&hasJS=true
Use a 10lb flourocarbon tippeton this such as airflo sight free G3.

2007-12-08 19:21:46 by Fishingidiot

i'm getting my first fly rod for christmas and i am having trouble understanding all the types of line you use. i usually fish using a spin rod so i only use on type of line. i just need help understanding the lines used. so its backing - fly line - leader - tippet right? also, what is the difference between leader and tippet, and what is the material the backing and fly line made out of. thanks for any answers
thanks for the answers. also, do you have to have a tippet?

Some great answers already! Kudos!

It seems like you have grasped the concept of fly fishing very well.

Your set up should be as follows;

Backing- to "fill" the spool-reduces fly line memory, and its that extra length if you hook a big fish, or are fishing for hard fighting fish on a light leader.(connect to the spool with an arbor knot)

Next is your fly line- Good brands to look at in no particular order;
RIO, Cortland(444), Airflo, Scientific Anglers, Orvis. You need a WF line, don't be tempted to buy a DT, not until you are more experienced.

Next you need a leader- although tying your own tapered leaders is cheaper and easy once learned its best to start out with a "knotless tapered leader" they are cheap and you wont go through many.

My main reason for suggesting it is that it saves time when fishing.

My last part of advice i can offer you-unless you know this already is you need a Medium to Fast action rod, nothing else, as it will help your casting when learning. As already mentioned, buy the best line you can, without it casting will be hard. With correct care it will last. A 6wt fly rod will be your best option of an all round fly rod.
Fly line backing (20lb test will work for all rods except larger line weights for salmon, and saltwater)

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/standard-pod-wrapped.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20431-cat20437-cat20493&rid=&indexId=cat20493&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=3&parentType=index&parentId=cat20493&id=0011213

Tapered leaders

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20431-cat20439-cat20518&id=0000946312779a&navCount=7&podId=0000946&parentId=cat20518&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20518&hasJS=true

Arbor knot
http://www.animatedknots.com/arbor/index.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

http://www.hooked-on-flies.com/lines.htm
*update*

You only need to add a length of tippet, when your leader becomes shortened from changing flies. Depending on the tapered leader you can go about 1 ft before adding a tippet of co-polymer or fluorocarbon.


Reason for using a WF line?

Beginners will constantly struggle to aerialise the full head of a DT line, mainly due to an in-effective casting stroke and poor timing. Ive found that they find it a lot easier to false cast WF lines and on the actual cast and shoot the line with ease.
It is true that a DT line can be reversed on a spool, but unless stored on a large arbor reel(and even then) you will find that no matter how good the line is; it retains "memory" which is very hard if not impossible to remove. Making casting harder. Also the length of the "head" on a WF line is (depending on manufacture) shorter and so easier for a beginner to use, thats why i suggest you buying a WF line.
A WF line will last just as long as a DT so long as you take care of it, remove any grit and water, then clean and lubricate with a line cleaner like RIOs agent X formula.

2008-12-08 05:53:56 by Anthony D

I ran a cross a site that appeared to show the fly line should pass underneath (on the outside) of the line protector bar on the botom of the reel. I have always threaded my line so that it passes "inside" the bottom line protector as that seems to provide a more direct path to the first guide on the rod. So, should I feed my fly line "inside" the line protector bar, or on the "outside" of the line protector bar on the fly reel? Thanks for any help.

you have got it right. that is the only way the drag system will work properly and running it around the bottom wil cause abrasion to your fly-line and take years out of it's life.

2007-09-27 07:20:04 by John Sierra Flyfisher

The pflueger automatic reel, the marcus caddis Cc65 fly reel, the scientific anglers L2L reconnect 9' tapered leaders or the maxima leader wheels
Well the difference in the reels are only about 10 bucks apart on sportsmansguide.com but im a beginner so i just want some cheap stuff that will at least work and the reelz are only 26 and 36

Well, I hope I don't ruin your plan, but I have a couple recommendations.

First, I would avoid the Pflueger Automatic reel, not because of the brand or model, but because the "convenience" of automatic reels is heavily outweighed by their tendency to malfunction and the control you give up by using them. Stripping line and occasionally having to reel in a pile of line is just not that difficult, especially after you fish for a month or so. Trust me -- this is the sort of automation that may look attractive if you don't have experience, but I predict that if you get one you'll be looking for an ordinary reel before too long. The Marcus Caddis Cc65 -- I couldn't find any info on that and I've never seen one, so I can't help much there. However, if it's another automatic reel, just skip it. There are numerous entry-level reels that are of high quality and will get the job done, including the $30-$50 Scientific Angler reels.

Second, I would avoid the L2L system and any other "connector" system. Just get a booklet that shows how to tie knots and learn them. Here's a website with some great illustrations:

http://www.killroys.com/knots/knots.htm

The surgeon's knot will replace your line-to-leader connector, and it's almost as easy to tie as it is to use those connectors. You have to know the clinch knot anyway in order to tie on flies, so just learn the surgeon's knot and add more knots to your arsenal as you go. After you tie a knot for a day's worth of fishing, you'll never forget it.

The problem with connector systems is that you're always running back to the store to buy that special tackle. What if you run out when you really need it? What if you get somewhere where they don't sell it? What if you go to the store one day to find that your system has been discontinued? What if you get an idea to tie on a dropper or an extra length of tippet or some other crazy notion that catches you The Big One?

Connector systems are for those who are intimidated with all the learning you have to do in fly fishing -- just get over that intimidation and use "real" gear. With knots you still have to purchase line now and then, but at least you can tie any material to any other material and you're limited only by your imagination.

I have heard good things about those Maxima Leader wheels, but I purchase leaders singly because I like a tapered leader.

2009-04-29 13:34:07 by callofdutyww2

i have a fly rod for both spin and fly fishing( im only using it for fly fishing) i was wondering what the right line was to use.

i know theres things like 2x 3x 4x and so on....i get what it means i just dont know what to use.

i also dont know if i shoulod have sinking or floating lines.

also leader? what do i use?


i am fishing for trout in rivers, ponds and lakes

Well you need to match the weight of your fly line with the weight of your rod your using for best castability (that should be on your rod <Recomended Weight Line>).

I recommend a floating line for dry fly fishing.

As far as leaders go I like a tapered leader/tippet it helps with the way a fly lands on the water . Also use as small of a diameter tippet as possible ,especially in lakes and ponds.

2007-04-21 20:17:29 by lkprosser22

we've tried heating the line and the eyelet but just can't get the eyelet into the end of the line.

There should be a sleeve in the packege. you cut off a peice about an inch long. You take have of the cutt off piece of the sleeve and slide on the fly line. take the other half and slide the no-not in there. Use a lighter and heat so it shrinks. Yoiu may have to heat and then let it cool and repeat.

2006-07-27 15:31:08 by rainey m