I need a good saltwater spinning reel that can hold around 300 yards of 20lb monofilament line.?
My budget is tight so im holding it to under $150 and can you tell me good fishing line at that lenght.
Daiwa Black Gold BG90
Penn Slammer 760
2009-02-01 18:11:44 by surffishing275
Whats the difference between Monofilament Line and Fluorocarbon Line?
si one better than the other
ADVANTAGES of Fluorocarbon:
-- One of the primary advantages of fluorocarbon is its near invisibility when it is submerged under water. Fluorocarbon line comes the closest to the light refractive index of water so it is virtually invisible when submerged. This fact alone makes this line very useful in situations that have a clear water environment. A lot of anglers are now using less-visible 16 lb. fluorocarbon for applications where they may have used more-visible 12-14 pound mono previously. Anglers are able to gain extra strength in their fluorocarbon lines due to the less visibility of fluorocarbon in the water.
-- Fluorocarbon's chemical composition and extrusion methods create an extremely strong and durable line. Fluorocarbon does not absorb water like most nylon monofilaments, so it maintains its strength better than nylon monofilaments, which loses strength when exposed to water or humidity. Fluorocarbon is also unaffected by the sun’s ultraviolet rays causing fluorocarbon lines to last significantly longer than nylon monofilaments as well. I have personally noticed that fluorocarbon line can last as long as four times the life of nylon monofilaments, making it an excellent choice for anglers looking for a good value in fishing lines.
--Yet another advantage of this space age line is that fluorocarbon has less stretch than typical nylon or copolymer monofilaments. Your hook sets are always strong and positive and this is a huge plus when fishing deep water finesse baits where line stretch is detrimental to a good hook set. The stretchiness characteristic of fluorocarbon line is more comparable to that of braided lines than nylon monofilaments, but without the thread look of braided lines that are easily seen in clear water. When you are flipping and pitching your subtle bites will go from a barely detectable tap tap while using nylon monofilaments, to bites feeling like a bolt of lighting up the spine of your rod when using fluorocarbon. The bites are three times more noticeable in my hands while using fluorocarbon.
I have to tell a story as it pertains to the sensitivity of fluorocarbon lines. While giving a tank seminar on jerkbaits at the Atlanta Boat Show a few weeks ago, I had one rod spooled with 10lb nylon monofilament and another with 10 lb fluorocarbon. I was using two rods for the sole purpose of saving time tying on another bait during the middle of a seminar. In this particular tank the fish were starving and feeding heavily on almost anything you threw. I was describing the different actions between a pointer 78 and a flashminnow 95MR in the tank and while fishing the pointer 78 on monofilament I can clearly see the fish lightly hitting the bait and quickly spitting it out because the hard jerkbait didn’t feel real to the fish. I could just barely, if at all, feel those fish hit that pointer 78. But when I threw the flashminnow 95MR on the fluorocarbon the fish just picked at the flashminnow just like they did the pointer 78 and the bites were extremely distinguishable compared to those hits on pointer 78 using nylon monofilament. I taught myself a very valuable lesson that day and it made me wonder how many fish have pocket picked my jerkbaits in the past while I was using nylon monofilament and I didn’t even know it. Even though the bites are subtle on inactive fish I could have at the very least has the opportunity to swing on some of those pocket picking fish in hopes to sticking them and getting them into the boat. But now that I use fluorocarbon I will get that opportunity and I will never forget that test and I hope it will give you the reader something to think about as well.
Another advantage of fluorocarbon over a braided line is that fluorocarbon line sinks at much faster rates than nylon line or even much less dense braided lines, which will float. Because of the chemistry of the material and the dense packing of the crystal structures in the polymer chains, fluropolymers are about 1.7 times as dense as nylon, which gives them a much faster sink rate. The fact that fluorocarbon sinks makes it a better choice for baits that dive or sink like crankbaits and deep jig fishing, and it can even help get your deep diving Lucky Craft jerkbaits like the Staysee 90 get a little deeper than a braided line normally would get you.
It is the surface tension of water combined with the lower density that can keep nylon monofilament from sinking under the water’s surface. It often takes the weight of a lure to let the nylon monofilament break the surface tension and sink slowly once it gets wet. Often the dry portion of the nylon monofilament that is unaffected by the weight of the lure, stays on the surface of the water. Most anglers have seen this when fishing with artificial lures. Once the lure hits the bottom, you will notice some of your line still on the surface of the water and any slack in the nylon line will float or arch creating a bow in your line. It is most notable especially when fishing at deeper depths. These bows and arches will not happen with fluorocarbon line. Fluoropolymers, even though they are hydrophobic or water hating, will easily break the surface tension and sink at much faster rates than nylon monofilaments, even without the help of the weight of any artificial lure. This concept leads to a direct connection to your lure, which is a very important aspect when fishing deep water with any lure that is worked below the surface of the water. It is common knowledge that big bows in your line reduce your ability to detect subtle strikes, especially in deep water, and by using fluorocarbon line you have just eliminated those effects.
-The hard finish of fluorocarbon line also provides extreme abrasion resistance over nylon monofilaments. In fact, fluorocarbon has been offered for years as a leader material because of this property, but recent improvements in the processing have enabled makers to manufacture it with enough flexibility to be used solely as fishing line for bass.
Now that’s the long list of advantages here is the short list of disadvantages, but they are very minor compared to the long list of advantages.
DISADVANTAGES of Fluorocarbon
One caution with fluorocarbon lines is that you need to be very careful when tying your knots to lures. Knot tying with fluorocarbon is VERY VERY critical to prevent break-offs. A lot of anglers discount the importance of knot tying with fluorocarbon lines and complain of line breakages. I can attest that poor knot tying skills are the most common reasons why anglers break off on fluorocarbon. No matter how long you have being tying knots with fishing line there is always room for improvement.
Here are the steps I take in getting a good strong knot with fluorocarbon. I prefer either the Berkley braid knot or the palomar knot when tying fluorocarbon to lures or hooks. The absolute key to getting a good knot with fluorocarbon is to make sure that your knot is NEAT and not sloppy. Meaning you can't have a strand of fluorocarbon overlapping where it shouldn't be overlapping and you must have a close to perfect knot as possible. Having said that, fluorocarbon lines are fairly stiff and slippery materials, and if you kink or damage the line while making the knot, then the line will be weakened dramatically similar to a single strand wire, once you kink the wire the wire has been weakened. So very careful, slow and systematic knot making, lubrication will help you to form a better knot and offer a stronger bind between your line and your lure. Once you wrap your knot and you are ready to cinch your knot you have GOT to slobber up the knot AND the eyelet of the hook very thoroughly!! Once you wet the knot, SLOWLY SLOWLY SLOWLY, cinch the knot and put a lot of emphasis that your knot stays straight and neat during the cinching process. I take 10 seconds to cinch the knot and I keep checking it to make sure my knot is clean as I am cinching it downward towards the lure. What I do is cinch the knot a 1/4 of an inch and stop and slobber it up and keep repeating the process till your knot is cinched all the way down, but remember to be sure that your knot is PRETTY. If you did everything correctly test your knot by pulling on it. With 8lb fluorocarbon line take the lure in one hand, line in the other with the knot being in between your two hands give it a good pull to see if your knot is sufficient and do this test as often as possible and retie as necessary. I do find myself retying more often on the smaller diameters (8lb test or smaller) than I do on the larger diameter lines. Yes, it's a little bit of a pain to go through some of the rituals that I go through in tying knots with fluorocarbon, but the key to fluorocarbon is some good basic and systematic knot tying skills. By developing good basic knot skills it allows you to concentrate on what is important, finding and catching more fish with the advantages that fluorocarbon provides you. Personally, I just can't imagine fishing with nylon monofilaments again after seeing the advantages of fluorocarbon lines with my own two eyes.
Fluorocarbon Line As for knots, I personally like the braid knot shown below. My primary reason for liking that knot is it is the easiest knot to tie and it is the easiest knot to get a pretty knot every time, compared to the palomar knot, with minimal hassle and alignment. There is very little chance of line overlapping incorrectly with the braid knot as compared to the palomar knot in my opinion, but both knots are equally as strong if done correctly.
Fluorocarbon is pretty tough for novice anglers to use on spinning reels. It does work very well on bait casting gear with no noticeable problems.
MONO LINES:
sorry, i would right about them but i ran out of space when i started, sorry. but fluorocarbon is very abrasion resistant and as less stretch. Although it dose have less no strength than mo
2008-06-25 09:46:18 by bran
What is the difference between monofilament line and flurocarbon fishing line?
The difference is in the polymers used in the manufacturing process.
Other differences are, fluorocarbon sinks faster than other line of the same size, which allows use of smaller weights, smaller baits or heavier line to accomplish the same purposes. You can dig a little deeper with crankbaits and use lighter jigs to create a more subtle action without having to lighten your line.
The slight shift in sink weight becomes especially valuable when you works a weightless Senko, which is one of my favorite ways to fish. An Gamakatsu 3/0 Wide Gap hook and Fluorocarbon combine to make a Senko sink at just the right rate for my style of fishing with no added lead, maximizing the action of the bait.
The size and type of line you use affects the action of any bait and I’ve found that Fluorocarbon allows for the most natural action with most baits.
Another important attribute of Fluorocarbon is its very low stretch. You feel every piece of cover as you work a bait along the bottom and you feel even the lightest strikes.
Minimal stretch also makes for solid hook sets. Even when dragging Carolina rigs over open-water humps, an approach that calls for very long casts, you knows that when you sets the hook you’ll be jerking into fish instead of pulling the stretch out of the line.
Adding even greater value, especially for clear-water fishing, Fluorocarbon is virtually invisible in the water. Plus, it’s highly abrasion resistant, which is critical for fishing around rocks, docks and other cover.
However take note that fluorocarbon is not always the right line for the job. The same properties that offer great virtue in most situations would work against an angler in others. For me, the three main situations that dictate using Monofilament instead of Fluorocarbon are topwater fishing, suspended jerkbait fishing and close-quarters flipping.
A small topwater lure and fluorocarbon don’t go well together because the sinking line tends to pull the nose of the bait down, hampering its action. Therefore I favor mono for slowly jerking a Bomber Long A because the fluorocarbon actually will cause a perfectly balanced suspending jerkbait to sink slowly.
When flipping a Mega Tube and working close to the fish, one needs a little stretch in his line as a shock absorber.
Use a palomar knot to tie lures on when you fish with Fluorocarbon, and be sure to wet the line when you tie it to avoid damaging the line. Fluorocarbon demands a little extra care when you spool reels to make certain they are spooled snugly.
Another benefit of Fluorocarbon is because of its added toughness, you won't have to re-spool as frequently.
Good Luck.
2007-03-14 12:01:55 by reverend_suede
Does monofilament fishing line stretch back?
We all know that monofilament fishing line stretches when pressure is applied to it (e.g., pulling it). My question is: does mono return to its original length after being stretched or does it stay stretched? In other words, does mono act more like a rubber band (stretches back) or a piece of chewing gum (stays stretched)?
I Think so its always worked for me
2008-04-11 08:06:41 by norbert
What the difference between monofilament, copolymer, superline, braided line, fused line?
I see these terms used often but does anyone know what they are and when one is better than another? thanks in advance for clearing this up.
and florocarben
using on casting and spinning rods for freshwater fish.
For the novice, monofilament is best. It's cheap, easy to rig/tie, offers decent abrasion resistance, and comes off the spool smoothly if matched to your rod & reel properly.
In order to delve deeper into this subject, we would really need to know what kind of rod/reel you are using, what kind of lures or bait you use, and what you are fishing for.
You could literally write a book on this subject, so you might to ask a more specific question.
2008-05-01 13:25:18 by Paracleet
Is there a right way and a wrong way to load monofilament fishing line onto a fixed spool reel?
The aim of this is to wind the line onto your reel in the opposite direction to which it was wound onto the spool in order to eliminate the twists in it. Wind it on the wrong way and you will increase the amount of twists.
Hold the edge of the spool of line on one side and watch how the line falls off. It should become apparent by the coils/twists.
It's easier if the reel is attached to a rod and you have a friend to hold the spool and put some tension in the line.
If you find that you have excessive line twist, clip on a weight and cast across a field, lay the rod down and walk over and unclip the weight, now reel in. The line should untwist by itself.
2006-09-14 06:18:15 by Birdy
Choosing The Right Fishing Line
Determining What Line To Use
Which type of salmon fishing line you use on your fishing trip will often mean the difference between a successful day and one filled with a lot of snags, rats-nests and frustration. The right salmon fishing line will often be determined by the type of salmon you are going to be targetting during the day; there are specialty lines designed specifically for certain types of fishing conditions, and even standard lines will have varying results depending on the water you are fishing in.
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First of all, it is important to understand the different construction materials used in different types of line. Species, depth of presentation, type of lure, size of lure all have a bearing on what type of materials you should be using. If you intend on trolling a spoon or heavier lure’s you want to have a line with some give so you don’t rip the lure out of the Salmons mouth and damage it. Monofilament has always been, and continues to be, the most popular choice among all anglers (those fishing for salmon included), at least as far as the bulk of purchases. Despite the steady sales in monofilament line, most people who fish will tell you that monofilament remains popular only because it is cheaper than other materials; one strand is not difficult to manufacture. A much more desirable type of salmon fishing line is that made from fluorocarbon. Fluorocarbon line is much stronger than nylon monofilament due to its complex structure (it is also often used in combination with copolymers). Most importantly to salmon fishers, especially those mooching or drift fishing, is the fact that fluorocarbon reflects light in much the same way as water, and is therefore much more difficult for a salmon to see. This is particularly important when considering leader material for your set up.
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